"Water and Life!"

A first hand, real life, knowledge 
of fluoride, its risks, and the need and value 
of protecting our precious waters, the flora, all animals,
all human beings and all life from it!
-- from a former farmer, dairyman, rancher, earth, human and animal
life scientist's point of understanding, labor, experience and view!
-- and he is not alone in this knowledge!
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In Santa Monica, Calif. -&- Davis County, Utah

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Note, of 5 April 2011: 
    Since I had not been involved in Anti-Fluoridation efforts for several years and because my meager resources have been consumed in my other efforts to protect millions from another poisoning atrocity being allowed by the Federal Government -- see LicenseToKill.us -- I could not maintain or afford my original "WaterAndLife.org" website and lost it to the domain name resellers (mercenaries who want more money than I can afford to buy it back).
    But since two friends in LA have just now requested that my information on Algae (and my warning on the toxic metals including radio-active Iodine which it collects, concentrates in its tissues and poisons you with if you chose to consume it) be back up and visible. So with their wonderful help, Gina Sanchez and Don Kidson in Santa Monica, Calif. (Living Light House on 12th and Broadway), I was able to secure WaterAndLife.us instead (for a reasonable cost) and upload my original WaterAndLife.org files, including my Algae document, to it. So most of my information on Water and man's toxins put in it is now available again, but many links are still old and may not work until I have time to edit or fix them.
    As all my web work is self-learned, I will try to simplify and update this site entirely when my time allows
    Thought the Events referred to here are in the past -- the science, logic and facts apply now and forever!

Please feel free to call me anytime. 801-298-9095.
Thomas L  Rodgers, 5 Apr 2011

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"Water And Life.org" Author is 15 Year "Terminal" Cancer Survivor -- "Relay For Life" -- June 2005, Honored by Mayor & Beauty Queens ....

Please forgive my site reconstruction! -- especially difficult in the middle of our battle of education of Davis County for our hard earned Re-Vote (and in our candidacy run), 

As possible, I am currently rebuilding these pages, which I began over 5 years ago, as I was asked as a farmer-rancher, water-earth-and-animal scientist to explain fluoridation challenges for the whole environment, curiously by invitation, to the city of Santa Monica California (through my connections with my famous friends and "students" in media and the movie industry)!  Beginnig with no website experience nor a sophisticated computer or composer software, as you can see, I have had to learn and improve as I go! 

I know my work is simplistic and compared to other's new websites, are unhandy to go through; as I first struggled originally without experience or help to produce it!, So please be patient with this old farmer-rancher-dairyman and out-of-doors animal and natural biologist -- who knows more than most about this fluoridation issue as it relates to animals (including humans), crops or agriculture and the environment! -- but not so much about building fancy web pages!

So, as I am just now reorganizing and rebuilding this site (as well as some of my related sites - with their associated issues) be tolerant and patient with me. Please, at least, read the pages I have linked in the Blue Panels then return to this site again soon, as I develop easier to read pages with links in logical layout in side panels or appropriately within the texts! 

Thank for your desire to learn the truth about the effects of Fluoride on Animals and all of Nature!  Thank you for tolerating my accertive, sometimes abasive, but truely worried-for-you voice. After all, it is yours and your children's and all creation's world and future that is at risk. You must act for them!  So please see the Blue Panels and individual animal and environment sub-pages (some with their own domain names for easy recall), as I further develop them and upload my mountains of research papers supporting my already simple, but correct statements! 

-- The animals, vital (soil) microbiota and agriculture cannot tolerate Industrial Fluoride dumpage, and are damaged by it faster and more critcally than you!  (That is why fluoride must be fractioned out and precisely removed from fertilizer and most all agricultural and livestock general exposure and prophylactic chemicals!  -- dah!) TLR 10/18/2004

Water and Life!
Critical to the health of Humanity, all animal Creatures, all Life and Nature, is sources of undefiled Nontoxic Water.  Water is the life-fluid of the entire planet! We are its most dependent consumers and so also must be its most responsible guardians!

But short-thinking, greed driven, devious or foolish men, soliciting and securing well-meaning, yet easily convinced, tender-hearted women and men, and seducible professionals, have successfully "invented" and established in mad-science and mad-promotion, a delivery and disposal method for their removal-challenging toxic industrial waste overburden in their most cost effective way ever imagined.

Instead of paying the price of appropriate containment and disposal, surreptitiously they have devised this heinous way of receiving municipal payment for depositing their toxic wastes into your culinary water -- passing it through you, your children your elderly, your pets, your toilet, your laundry, lawn and wildlife, your businesses, all industry, out every drainage and sewer -- so finally into the ground water, rivers. lakes, aquifer, sea and sea life! -- If that fluoride waste where dumped directly into nature's waters it would be EPA illegal!

The flaw in their deviant insanity-science is that this poisonous substance is severely bio-toxic, bio-reacting and bio-concentrating, and is cycling back -- hurting everyone and everything, including its own foolish inventors and promoters, their believers, the creatures and most importantly your children and you!

Rational, clear-thinking (hopefully reasonably toxin-free, neurologically-unfluorinated) men and women can easily grasp and readily understand this inhumane industrial blunder and it's suicidal chemistry folly when reasoning through nature's clearly  observable hard evidence and facts.

You are invited in these modest pages, which do contain some excellent links, to study and understand nature's easily viewed reality, her tangible evidence and her irrefutable fact.

You are then encouraged to speak-out and act for your own good and in defense of the your children and their children yet to come, all creatures, their water and the future! For your own safety and the future's health and sanity, you must!

Your caring friend and friends of:
The Coalition for Water and Life
The true! "For the good of the children!" and earth-defending,
close-to-the-soils-and-all-living-things wise old farmers, biologists, professionals, teachers, mothers, fathers, families and friends!

In Utah,  we labored and obtained the right to reconsider and  Re-Vote Fluoridation!  Last year for Nov, 2004 and beyound!

This information immediately below shows we are many friends with varied backgrounds, education and experience: 
But have one common goal!

--The Right to choose what goes into our bodies !
 And in my case! --What goes into my soils and my animal's bodies!

This is a 'Combined Resources Site'  for you to learn and act!

Thanks to the vigorous unpaid labor of caring citizens in Davis County and all Utah, you have been given the right and responsibility to re-vote the County Fluoridation Issue on your ballots in this November's County, State and National Election event. 

Please get your Lawn Signs, liturature, facts and honest education (via the links) here.

Now you must think far beyond your teeth, and the narrow focus of the presumed dental benefits from Fluoridation, as is used for its promotion by our local, Fluoride-Waste-Industry-solicited, Davis County and Utah State (Human) Health Departments, and our Communities' Medical and Dental Industry's, comfortably benefited, "Health Professionals," their Unions, and their Subordinate Employees,

Instead, through researching the Websites blow, you must understand the truly greater burden, actual costs and impact of their Industrial "Fluoride" (specifically their HydroFluosilicic Acid Waste! - which is NOT nature's inert and harmless Natural CalcuimFluoride) - as the "treatment" of all culinary water is to the rest of your body (ie. your liver, thyroid, brain, bones etc.), the bodies of your Cats, Dogs, Fish, Birds, all Pets and all other community animals, and livestock including horses; as well as all culinary-water-irrigated agriculture , your own and Commercial food processing, and with all other City-based Industries and Nature's fauna and flora, as consequent and dependent consumers and the ultimate receivers of all the City's "Fluoride" treated waters. 

Please read and learn from these excellent sites and information that follows:
TLR

WaterWatchOfUtah.org -- 
-- Sorry! this excellent site also appears closed or moved
Davis County Initiative & Nov 2004 re-vote resource! --
Excellent public education and active support site - 
By Lorna Rosenstein!
 

Whole State of Utah:
.,,,The Original "Citizens for Safe Drinking Water - Utah" Site:
Now: SafeDrinkingWaterCoalition .org   (or .com)
StopFluoridation.Homestead.com
(Previously accessed as / then will again after Nov 2 Vote; StopFluoridation.com)
Pilot site of all Utah State Public Efforts and Actions.
--  Includes Davis County Re-Vote Initiative!
 

WaterAndLife.us: Pet Care, Farming, Ranching, Animal & Botanical issues
Your already here -- Scroll Down -- look at information linked in Blue Panels
-- or click individual animal / issue links here or as they appear in following text.
WaterAndLife information on: Santa Monica , Utah, Davis County, Animal Challenges, Soil Organisms, Plants, Pets, Horses, Cattle, Poultry, Birds, Aquatic Life, Fish, Farmers, Nature, Acid, Drugs, Ducks , Industry, Infants, (my poke at under-educated "Pros" Jackasses, Quacks)
Animal, Agricultural, Natural and Environmental issues,
as well as the Human impact of Water Fluoridation,
from an old farmer, dairyman-rancher, 
as an earthy, reality-focused life-scientist & author with personal knowledge & experience!
 

Utah Water Facts Chart New Page: During our serious draught (and consequent fires), learn relationships between your personal choices and water - especially the greatest use demand -- your food choices: (Chart by: State of Utah Natural Resources - Div. of Water Resources) Why Change Water Treatment and Use Habits? - To Save Water, Self and Earth!

We have provided this proponent website link so that you can objectively examine their perceptions of the Fluoridation "good for teeth" issues and understand their saddly narrow stance, and answer the proponents shallow arguments in their Fluoridation promotion website; "Keep Smiling Davis County" (linked below). 

But before you look at their narrow focused (dental carries argument only) site, please read these items and see if they ever address them:

The Comparitive Costs of Mass Fluoridation vs.costs of individual (human specific) supplements and treatments?

The added Operations Costs and pass through costs in finished products -- and the potentual for increased product contamination -- for our communities' high water use industries (local, small agriculture, food processing, and all other soft or hard-goods manufacturing and water dependent services)?

The Source or (lack of) Purity of the Hydro-Fluosilicic-Acid "Fluoridation" water treatment additive (including the lead, arsenic, cadmium, etc. contaminates always present in HFA)?

(Beyond their presumed benefit to teeth) The effect of HFA on rest of the human body; i.e. the human systemic and cellular chemistry, the endocrine system, sensitive thyroids, brains, bones, immune system etc.?

The Effect on city water dependent Animals, Pets (including Birds and Fish), Horses and any other animals required to drink from culinary supplies of water?

The Effect upon culinary-water-dependent container-grown plants and/or city water irrigated gardens and orchards. (Note: Persons at end of water service lines will have little or no active fluoride "to benefit anyone's teeth" at all! -- This is Nature's and Water Fluoridation's Grand Joke! )

The Effect on city effluent and runoff absorbing soil organisms, fish, water purifying algae and aquatic life, ulitmately including the aquatic insects, birds, reptiles and game?

And why is it that the brokers of HFA (esp. Cargile Fertilizer, Fla.), who also (like ADM, Con-Agra, Monsanto) broker large contracted agi-suppliers' products or their own corporate grown produce, livestock and food products, will never allow or leave the Fluoride components it in their own fertilizer phosphate mining products (it must be fractured out), then even "outlaw" its re-introduction into their contracted growers, fellow corporation's or their own corporate agricultural farms operations and their own culinary or production water supplies or lands? -- and yet their HFA toxic waste overburden -- which they must dispose of and keep out of their own operations -- is somehow ok for your garden, your animals, your city family and you ?!!!

Is it really about sound teeth? specifically about dental health benefits for that tiny percentage of water consumers represented in teeth developing children? What about risking the un-metered water drinking pregnant mother's (research known fluoride sensitive) fetuses in utero, pre-dental infants, already Fluoxetine (Fluoride) medicated emotionally depressed and mentally ill, sensitive adults, cancer patients, and the already bone brittling aged? Or is it still subtly about sales for Cargile, all Mining, Refining (Including Petroleum) and the Chemical industries and their not having to pay their common toxic Fluorine waste disposal costs by instead selling it to you and by default, increase the profits for their solicitive Pharmaceutical, Dental, Psychiatric and Medical patient flow and human sickness dependent Industry? (At this point, you probably think I'm nuts and need Prozac's active ingredient, fluoride - phenfluoxetine right now! But I don't and neither does every human, life-form and creature in Davis County!)

And last, but not the least: What about our individual personal health, dental and medical (treatments and medication) choices? (or did we flush that one down the toilet with our mass-voted, mass-fluoridated toilet tank water too??? -- along with our liberally removed other personal and family agency, medical freedoms, rights and choices?)

Remember, the Proponent's site and their carefully crafted glossy and "pretty" paper literature, travel, lodging and time is well funded and paid for by the HFA waste Industry (primarily Cargile) and their chemical, pharmaceutical and medical beneficiaries already romanced in their grants, and through your chosen (or mandated) dependence, patronage, purchases and payments to them and to their carefully instructed and fellowed ADA Dentist, AMA Doctors, Psychiatrists, Pharmacists, and Educators, and your already tax supported State and Country Health Depts. and Public Education (Nurses) Systems, and all their paid publishers and (advertising) media!. -- So their shallow site and truth evasive propaganda is still ultimately paid for by you! 

Now look at the Davis County Fluoridation Proponent's site:
KeepSmilingDavisCounty.org
(I am sorry but I am forced by my old farmer/rancher discontent and rage at th heartless fraud and mindless damamge done to me, my family's and my friend's small farming enterprizes, our economics and health, to protest and choose to  use CREEPY  font to write in their web link here for you.)

Unlike the perked and well funded Proponent's glossy propaganda, with their lists of parroting endorcement organizations and websites (linked above), I and most of my wrongly labeled "Anti-Fluoride" -- more correctly "Personal Fluoridation Choice!" demanding friends and fellows, the Citizens For Safe Drinking Water Utah & Davis County  and: WaterAndLife, etc, provide for our own costs in research, experience, our plain photo copied literature, our travel, (me sleeping in my old van instead of a hotel or motel while traveling) to lobby or educate you! Our tabling and time is all sparingly paid for by us, ourselves. All you see maintained here is done with what ever other few coins I can make myself or can beg for from my wife's modest grocery change! We have no grants, no profit, no chemical industry backing or benefiting medical fellows paying for our efforts. So why in the name of reason and riches do we wear out our lives in this thankless unpaid labor?

Saving something of my children's future, their safety and their earth, and you along with it, in return for my  deepening debt, appears to be my only reward! 

But hopefully a better world and my loved one's lives not fully poisoned in it will be my children's inheritance from me. At this point, this dedication and my love for them is all I have to give! I have no more wealth than that now! It all went in my suffering and loss to those same players (once my fellows) who promote drugs, fluoride, endless treatments and profit richly from your disease!  Oct 3, 2004, TLR

MEETING  WAS HELD 10/22/04
"FLUORIDATION: ALL THINGS CONSIDERED" 

The support for fluoridating public water supplies has ridden on the back of endorsements since its inception.  It is time to review the science.  It is time for citizens to seriously consider the emerging data before they vote on fluoridation.

The Commissioners of Davis County, Utah have directed that the following opinion question be placed on the next general election ballot, Tuesday, November 2, 2004. "Shall fluoride continue to be added to the public water supplies of Davis County.  Yes or No." 

In order to provide the public with an opportunity to become fully informed on both sides of this controversial political question, Waterwatch of Utah will host a public debate entitled

Fluoridation: All Things Considered
meeting was held Friday, October 22, 2004
at the Davis County Convention Center, Layton

Presenters  included:

Dr. William Hirzy, a senior scientist (Risk Assessment) and ranking professional chemist at the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) in Washington, D.C., is also Senior Vice President of the EPA headquarters Professionals’ Union which unanimously opposes water fluoridation. In addition, Dr. Hirzy is the Chemist-In-Residence and Adjunct Professor of Chemistry at the American University in Washington, D.C.

Dr. Phyllis Mullenix, a toxicologist and pharmacologist by training, has held appointments in the Department of Neuropathology and Radiation Oncology at Harvard Medical School, and served as Head of the Toxicology Department for Forsyth Research Institute--a world renowned dental research institution--for eleven years.  Dr. Mullenix currently serves as a consultant in litigation involving poisonings from various occupational and environmental exposures, and is an expert witness in fluoride toxicology.

Dr. Hardy Limeback, Head of the Department of Preventive Dentistry, University of Toronto, is Past President of the Canadian Association of Dental Research.  Dr. Limeback is a leading dental researcher specializing in tooth development and fluoride toxicology.  Originally one of Canada’s leading proponents of water fluoridation, Dr Limeback publicly reversed his position after a thorough investigation of the research revealed safety and health risks associated with fluorides.

Dr. Roger D. Masters, President of the Foundation for Neuroscience and Society and a Fulbright Fellow, is a Professor of Government and Nelson A. Rockefeller Professor Emeritus at Dartmouth University.  Dr. Masters is a research professor specializing in government and neurotoxicology.   In 1999 he and Myron Coplan published a paper in the International Journal of Environmental Studies which showed elevated blood lead levels of children in Massachusetts who drank fluoridated water.

The Davis County Health Department and Utahns For Better Dental Health are cordially invited to participate on the panel, their presenters to be announced. 

Contact information was: Waterwatch of Utah
Lorna Rosenstein 801-815-4166  / cell  801-444-9608

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Read Davis County Clipper's 
report on this Conference

Fluoride Conference as reported in Davis County Clipper

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Our WaterAndLife.org (now .us) beginnings in Santa Monica, California!

I had been petitioned by my movie star students and friends to come to L.A. to teach them.  And as I was teaching them in other important life and health, physiological and neurological experience, science and personal choices, they made me aware of the proposal of their city council to add Fluoride to their water. I explained to them the physiological and neurological effects of industries un-natural fluoride* being added to their entire bodies, not just their teeth, through the systemic doping of all body tissues through drinking water. I explained how "Fluoridating" an entire water supply with the powerfully reactive form's of man's industrial overburden waste fluoride product forms leads to uncontrolled doping of not only all humans, but pets, livestock, and all other life forms! -- many of which are heavy water consumers and which are reactive-fluoride sensitive and already endangered by man's other chemical insanities!

So caring for them there, I consented to stay with them to educate them more, and help with their community efforts and their city council's political decision's. All of that effort is here recorded in my section titled Santa Monica, California!

As I am an old country boy from Utah I am also laboring with friends at home. My consern is not just for the human family, but also for livestock, wildlife, animals of all forms, the flora (vegetation), and all life forms here.  My local efforts are also expanded upon and recorded here in my section titled Utah!

Even though you may not live in Santa Monica, California or Utah, you will be benefited in a crucially important broadened understanding of fluoridation's risks, if you will take the time to read both sections and their links.

Thanks for your concerns and efforts in this issue!

* note Calcium Fluoride is the natures most common form of fluoride that is found everywhere in nature which is found in most well waters. It is effectively inert, non-reactive or stable and is not generally deleterious to anyone's tissues or body! -- it passes through with out any appreciable actions or reactions.

However most of all man's industrial forms are body tissue absorbed, potently or highly reactive and are potentially deleterious or dangerous! The fertilizer, mining and chemical industries most commonly produced fluoridation agent, Hydrofluosilicic acid - the form used for most city water fluoridation - is harvested from industry's smoke stack scrubbers, chemical separators and other process wastes! It is violently reactive, violently corrosive, difficult to manage and maintain its chemical integrity, so is hazardous and lethal! -- It is especially dangerous for the water department handlers and is a constant corrosion problem for their water treatment equipment and all service and downstream connected systems!

Depending upon which operation from which it was harvested, it always carries other dangerous trace contaminants with it, including lead, arsenic, cadmium and the like - all of which are violently toxic in any accidental overdose, but also cumulatively damaging over time, in even the most carefully controlled exposures, especially for infants, certain sensitive individuals and for most all plant and animal species!

You can see the current activities in Santa Monica carried on by Gene Burke since our initial efforts (shown here below) by seeing our page provided for his SantaMonicans for Safe Drinking Water Coalition, then return here.

Though you may not be a citizen of Santa Monica,California, you will learn from this brief draft to the Mayor, Council and residents (and the report that follows). It helped contribute to the reversal of fluoridation for that important city (in the Winter of 2000), Dec 1 2000.

What applies to Santa Monica's City Council, people and water dependent life, then -- still applies to you now! Please read it!

Dear Friends:    This site and and all our other efforts have been provided and are paid for out of my personal efforts and my already stressed and limited personal resources, including those of my wife and my family! They - with me - live most frugal, and go without much, so this information and our personal labors can be made available to educate, encourage and provide benefit for you.      Several times my family and I have had our utilities interrupted this winter, lived in a house at less than 60 degrees and scrimped on our food so we could instead keep these pages open, work without compensation and continue freely given educational efforts made available for you and while I donated my time to educate Municipal Leaders and Legislators in our State's House and Senate session in past 40 days.     I travel and talk freely to you and your friends, families and community leaders, secure facilities and provide display and provide materials on my own dime (which should be my family's instead), and sleep in my old 89 Plymouth Voyager even in brutal cold to save in my many miles traveled to share understanding and get help to you or anyone.     So if you are or have been benefited by these efforts  -- your help would be a gratefully accepted as a small repayment for your own understandings, health benefits or municipal water protections. So if you in gratitude could help us sustain this effort and let it and us continue to reach and benefit you and others, even with your smallest of tangible contributed kindnesses, it would be carefully used and sincerely appreciated. Thanks, sincerely, T LRodgers, (WaterAndLife..org ),  LifeSave, PO Box 304,  Bountiful, Utah, 84011-0304  (ph. 801-298-9095)   If you are able to economically assist, please help me maintain this personal time and resource consuming effort - including this website which costs me $32 a month - to get you & everyone real education on fluoridation! I have used all I have had of my own money which included $2,000 for the State and County Fair spaces I purchased and made freely available for Citizens For safe Drinking Water Utah and Davis, as well as to testify, citizen lobby the legislature and campaign and canvas against fluoride! -- and currently to do diligence, discovery, advocacy, legal and political battle nearly 2 yrs without pay for a Bureaucracy, Medicine and State violated innocent Vegan Family! And now I am dead broke, but with my exact knowledge and personal experience, in my integrity or good conscience, keeping any peace of mind, I cannot quit this critical effort!  Thanks TLR Please give your support & send kind Donations:  Click here Contributions

Please let us know!of any Farmers, Mothers and Family, Animal Shows (Horses, Livestock of all kinds, Birds, Fish, Pets, Agriculture, Food Manufacturing), Key Individuals, Groups or Group Activities particularly in Utah that we can contact, attend and help provided education in this critical issue protecting their animals and produce. Also share these web pages with your Ranch, Animal owning, and Animal caring friends! Your help is needed and appreciated! To Email us (for Water and Life.us): WaterAndLife@WaterAndLife.us. or call 801-298-9095 -- note: your caller ID is required and recorded for call to complete.

This site's author and donor, observed in his diligent battle at our Legislature for Fluoride Free Water, Individual and Family Education, Health and Medical Rights,  has been asked to run for State Senate!